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Jul272012

Friday Open, With Geography Lesson Included

Tom mentioned this in another thread. Thought the video might be interesting.

Why is it that Jay Carney can't answer one very simple and easy to understand question?  

 

It's not a trick question, but the non-answer certainly seems tricky.

Consider this an open thread, and opine away on anything of interest.

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Why is it that Jay Carney can't answer one very simple and easy to understand question?

Because it's an election year and Obama can't afford to offend muslim religious fanatics or their Leftist apologists.

July 27, 2012 at 10:23 | Registered CommenterMachiavelli

Obama's mouth piece won't answer that question for free. Send $$$$ to Re-Elect Obama 2012 if you want the words Jerusalem (i say it's Tel Aviv) so Carney could have mentioned either.

July 27, 2012 at 17:31 | Unregistered CommenterThomas Miller

Does the White House have a janitor assigned to follow Carney? I mean, someone must be cleaning up the trail of oil he leaves behind.

July 28, 2012 at 06:29 | Registered CommenterRedBeard

lol One has to wonder why the right wing nuts sitting there feel the need to persist in trying to cause an international incident.

In other news I saw Mitt Romney in England today promised to return the bust of Winston Churchill back to the oval office and replace good ole honest Abe. I wonder if the British Prime Minister has a bust of George Washington at #10 Downing Street. Perhaps we should send them one just for shits and giggles. Tell them that if they don't display it in either the Prime Minister's office or in the Queen's private residence we won't feel a special bond with them anymore.

July 28, 2012 at 23:07 | Registered Commenterkwawk

One has to wonder why the right wing nuts sitting there feel the need to persist in trying to cause an international incident.

I find it rather depressing to watch the spokesperson for the Leader of the Free World attempt to deny reality, because of some need to pander to the wishes of a bunch of bloodthirsty anti-Semites.

That's the real "international incident", kwawk.

July 29, 2012 at 00:27 | Registered CommenterMachiavelli

The bust of Churchill is not important, as an object. But as a bellwether, or a symptom, the banishing of the bust is extremely important in understanding Obama's disturbingly warped world view.

Same can be said for Carney's embarrassing performance here. Very revealing. But in fairness to Carney, he has a tough job, trying make Obama's policies appear reasonable and sane when they are not. He appears to be hiding things, offering up diversions, and telling whoppers because... well, because that's exactly what he has to do to serve and cover for his master.

July 29, 2012 at 06:41 | Unregistered CommenterRedBeard

The US has never acknowledged Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and you know it. Doesn't matter if the President was Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush, Dwight Eisenhower or Richard Nixon. Doesn't matter if it was Bill Clinton, Harry Truman, John Kennedy or Barack Obama.

The answer has always been the same and the two nut jobs in peanut gallery knew it.

It's amazing to me how patriotic you claim to be Red, until the time comes to turn on your own country. Placing a bust of Abraham Lincoln in the White House is a symptom of a disturbing and warped world view. It embarrassing for Obama's press secretary to reiterate the same policies and stands that the US has had for the past 11 Presidents.

Get a grip man!

July 29, 2012 at 10:32 | Registered Commenterkwawk

"Placing a bust of Abraham Lincoln in the White House is a symptom of a disturbing and warped world view."

Do I have permission to distribute this around the web? Wow!

July 29, 2012 at 11:01 | Unregistered CommenterThomas Miller

Ask Redbeard, it's his belief system.

July 29, 2012 at 11:03 | Registered Commenterkwawk

From the administration recognized in Manhattan, Cambridge, Chicago, Santa Monica and San Francisco as the smartest ever; we've been given the gifts of the lower 57 states, Austrian the language of Austria and given two chances to nail down the capital of Israel and knowing neither a CIC who still blames Bush for everything.

I see that Obama now has the same poll numbers vs. Romney that McCain had in 2008 vs. Barry. I know the "1%" is the big chant of the left today. Their close. It's really the "1.5% GDP" and you would be correct.

July 29, 2012 at 11:10 | Unregistered CommenterThomas Miller

Yeah but it's your idiotic comment. Take ownership.

July 29, 2012 at 11:11 | Unregistered CommenterThomas Miller

I really couldn't care less about Churchill's bust in the oval office, considering there's actually two of them (well, now one) floating around the White House... but the concern is, even over something this petty, why lie about it's removal?

Here's a couple other things that caught my eye while traveling:

Marco Rubio... FL throws out all ethics charges (Dems sad he's still a viable VP option)

Liberal hypocrisy: Part 4,325,098 - Mocking Ann Romney for her $900-some dollar top while ignoring Michelle Obama's $6800 jacket at the Olympics (again, they're just so obsessed with Romney and fearful of another GOP takeover they'll sputter anything, literally anything they can... Winston's still busy doing push-ups in hopes of picking up that kitchen sink by election day).

Rahm Emanuel "chickens out" (lol)

The DNC's homepage mentions Mitt Romney more than it does Barack Obama.

The "great uniter" seems to getting a lot of heat for this botched arms treaty No word yet if he'll use it's total failure to pass off as a "composite" success in hopes of pandering to independents and right-leaning voters.

Obama this week: “Just like we’ve tried their plan, we tried our plan — and it worked." Really? What was your plan? Outspend Bush? That may have been an even dumber statement taking credit for ending the Iraq War on the bloodiest day of the year and saying he'd "spend every waking moment thinking about you" while his so-called "jobs council" hasn't met in over 6 months. But let's get all wee-wee'd up over Mitt calling into question London's security, which has been and still is a key issue of this year's Olympic games. Sometimes leftists are so pathetically transparent, even though they try incredibly hard not to be.

p.s.... I swear to God, this was NOT me. I headed south for vacation, not north... I prrromise.

July 29, 2012 at 11:39 | Registered Commenterskinnydipinacid

"Pelosi: President Obama's Been to Israel ‘Over and Over Again"

No Nance he hasn't. Went on a freshman tour as Senator but never as a private citizen or President. We all know this is Winston's favorite demwit pol. As Winston is fond of saying 'I just love her." To think for two years this half-wit was two heart beats away from being President. She's Kathy Griffin without the intelligence.

July 29, 2012 at 11:59 | Unregistered CommenterThomas Miller

Ah,yes... Nancy...
She also said she prefers KFC over Chik-Fil-A...
wonder how that makes PETA feel.

July 29, 2012 at 12:14 | Registered Commenterskinnydipinacid

The US has never acknowledged Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and you know it.

Jerusalem has been recognized as the capital of Israel as a matter of federal law since 1995.

July 29, 2012 at 13:28 | Registered CommenterMachiavelli

"Pelosi: President Obama's Been to Israel ‘Over and Over Again"

"No Nance he hasn't."

Remember TM, once it is stated it becomes the truth. Simple as that. And thing is it actually seems to work quite well for them. I mean who's to call 'em on it cept some crazy, extremist, right wing nooshan.

July 29, 2012 at 13:59 | Registered CommenterTijuana

My, kwAwk seems very edgy today. I mean, in addition to his normal wrongness.

July 29, 2012 at 14:03 | Unregistered CommenterRedBeard

With the reach of government out of friggin’ control I'm slightly encouraged by some of the dialogue this weekend from people who have stopped debating this WH and started to ask “Who in the hell do you think you are" as the response to the governments freedom grab. I LOVE IT!! Stop debating these nitwits on the merits as if they have any legitimate standing and ask why is it nursing mothers should only breast feed, or why federal committee's in Washington should decide you healthcare?? PLEASE some politician or voter given the chance YELL AT BARACK OBAMA AND SAY "Who in the hell do you think you are?" FU.

July 29, 2012 at 20:45 | Unregistered CommenterThomas Miller

Jerusalem has been recognized as the capital of Israel as a matter of federal law since 1995

Well, that and 50 cents will get you a pack of gum. Foreign policy including the recognition of territory of foreign countries and other foreign policy decisions is constitutionally the province of the executive branch. Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama do no recognize the validity of that law. Notice the absence of an embassy in Jerusalem.

July 30, 2012 at 12:54 | Registered Commenterkwawk

Notice the absence of an embassy in Jerusalem.

Congress noticed, which is why they passed the Jerusalem Embassy Act.

July 30, 2012 at 14:24 | Registered CommenterMachiavelli

Yep. And 17.5 years later they're still waiting.

July 30, 2012 at 14:28 | Registered Commenterkwawk

KwAwk, how does any of the stuff you've posted serve to defend Obama? Seems like that's your goal, but you haven't moved the ball any closer.

July 30, 2012 at 15:04 | Unregistered CommenterRedBeard

I don't feel the need to defend Obama for maintaining the same position the US Government has maintained for the past 60 years.

Fairly convenient there that some nut from the World Nut Daily was in the White House briefing room asking this questions shortly before Willard goes on his trip to Israel to declare he would move the embassy. It's almost like they're taking their marching orders from the Romney campaign.

July 30, 2012 at 15:46 | Registered Commenterkwawk

If one were inclined to believe in conspiracy theories, one might even start to think that Willard was coordinating with the Likud party to try influence the results of the American election.

July 30, 2012 at 17:22 | Registered Commenterkwawk

The Politico reported:

Former Vice President Dick Cheney said President Barack Obama is “one of our weakest presidents” and worse than Jimmy Carter. “Obviously, I’m not a big fan of President Obama,” Cheney said in an interview that aired Monday on ABC’s “Good Morning America.” “I think he’s been one of our weakest presidents. I fundamentally disagree with him, philosophically. You’d be hard put to find any Democratic president that I’ve disagreed with more.”

“Worse than Jimmy Carter, from your perspective?” ABC’s Jon Karl asked him. “Yes.”

This makes sense. Those popping noises I heard the other day were libs heads exploding. LOL..

July 30, 2012 at 18:04 | Unregistered CommenterThomas Miller

BTW, Dick Cheney knows the capital of Israel.

July 30, 2012 at 18:14 | Unregistered CommenterThomas Miller

NBC News;

"Ancestry website: Obama's mother descended from first US slave"

LOL, maybe one of the most desperate MSNBC/NBC stories for Obama EVER. Hey MSNBC, how brutal are those internal polls for OBlama? WOW.

July 30, 2012 at 18:26 | Unregistered CommenterThomas Miller

Really? You're attacking Obama using the words of a Vice-President who left office with a 13 percent approval rating?

or

Really? You're attacking Obama's toughness using the words of Vice President Chickenhawk?

July 30, 2012 at 21:42 | Registered Commenterkwawk

Did you just use "toughness" and "Obama" in the same sentence? Are you talking about the same Obama who called off the bin Laden hit three times because Valerie "Ma Barker" Jarrett ordered him to stand down? That tough guy?

July 31, 2012 at 01:35 | Unregistered CommenterRedBeard

Speaking of vice-presidents, did you notice that Gaffemaster Joe has been demoted? He, as sitting vice-president of the United States, is now subservient to Blue Dress Bill Clinton. Apparently Slick Willie has bumped Plugs Biden from the usual VP spot at the Dem circus... er... I mean Dem convention.

I smell desperation in the air. If the DNC bigwigs think they need to hide Biden because he's an embarrassment, and yet see fit to replace him with another embarrassment, a guy who dishonored his marriage and his office (figuratively and literally), was guilty of contempt of court, forfeited his law license, and was fined $90,000 for his malfeasance, things must be really tough over there.

But then, to the lefties, none of what Clinton did matters at all. He's not a conservative, you see.

July 31, 2012 at 09:52 | Unregistered CommenterRedBeard

Did anybody notice that that mean ole Mitt Romney didn't even invite George W. Bush and Dick Cheney to the conventionion in Tampa?

What is the matter with him? It's like he's embarassed by the last Republican administration or something! Shame!

Free Dubya!!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha! (someone has to fill in for Winston while he's on sabbatical)

July 31, 2012 at 10:25 | Registered Commenterkwawk

Please, the lack of the HaHaHaHaHa crapola was fairly nice, and now you've ruined it.

What's a conventi, and what is the function of the onion that goes with it?

July 31, 2012 at 10:33 | Unregistered CommenterRedBeard

"What's a conventi, and what is the function of the onion that goes with it?"

hahahahahahahahahaha...too funny.

July 31, 2012 at 12:47 | Registered CommenterTijuana

The change we hoped for: lie, dodge, hide and manipulate..

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/inhofe-obama-administration-doesnt-want-all-these-pink-slips-going-out-5-days-election

July 31, 2012 at 16:06 | Registered CommenterTijuana

So would the opposite of that be that Inhofe and Republicans do want these pink slips going out 5 days before the election?

July 31, 2012 at 16:23 | Registered Commenterkwawk

Why not, if they are required by federal law to go out?

July 31, 2012 at 18:14 | Registered CommenterTijuana

Laws? Lefties scoff at laws, up to and including the supreme law of the land. After all, laws can get in the way of the socialist utopian agenda.

July 31, 2012 at 19:31 | Unregistered CommenterRedBeard

Why not, if they are required by federal law to go out?

Because each one of those pink slips represents an actual person who may have a mortgage to pay. May have kids to feed. May have a spouse to support.

Each one of those pink slips represents a person who is more than just a punch line on a right wing website.

July 31, 2012 at 21:08 | Registered Commenterkwawk

Demonstrated: Pay no attention to the law.

Instead, use the "poor and downtrodden" in a poorly veiled and highly cynical campaign strategy.

Nothing new here. Lefties have been cynically using the poor and downtrodden (both real and fabricated) to increase their hold on power for about the last 100 years.

August 1, 2012 at 06:41 | Unregistered CommenterRedBeard

Obviously the solution is to ramp up early voting and/or voting by mail to try to lock in those votes before those people receive their pink slips.

August 1, 2012 at 10:01 | Registered CommenterDuff, man

Do you really not think that it wasn't a cynical campaign strategy to issue these pink slips right before the election in the first place?

Yes there are budget cuts scheduled to take place in January due to that wonderful Debt Limit Ceiling Agreement you guys needed to have RIGHT NOW, but somehow that translates into pink slips right on January 1st? Very convenient.

August 1, 2012 at 10:48 | Unregistered Commenterkwawk

Did you see the story about the Smartest President Ever planning to land at an Ohio Air Base that his press secretary was unaware is scheduled to be closed at the loss of 800 local jobs?

Link is here.

August 1, 2012 at 11:02 | Registered CommenterDuff, man

Here is a video everybody should watch....

http://bloggingheads.tv/videos/10287?in=56:31&out=61:03

If you don't like Barack Obama, you're really going to be scared of who comes next.

August 1, 2012 at 22:21 | Registered Commenterkwawk

???

Please clarify, kwAwk.

August 2, 2012 at 06:30 | Registered CommenterRedBeard

The video starts off with the economic law, I forgot who's law it was, that says that if a trend is not sustainable then it will stop. It goes on to say that the growing gap between rich and poor is not sustainable in a democratic society, eventually the society will collapse as growing resentment occurs between rich and poor and people become radicalized.

It goes on to note that there are three types of people in the ways that they respond to this type of crisis. Those who radically defend the status quo, those who want to reform the system gently and take the stress out of the system, and those who react irrationally to enact change, demarked as those who want to 'burn down the bakery because there isn't enough bread'.

It says that when faced with these type of crisises in the past the elites or ruling class have been faced with options. You can have this William Jennings Bryant guy who is quite radical or settle for the Teddy Roosevelt/Woodrow Wilson types who aren't going burn the system to the ground. You can have Huey Long, or you can get Franklin Roosevelt.

Barack Obama, in spite of all your protestations, represents a Roosevelt/Wilson type President as opposed to a Bryant/Long type President. If the elite ruling class rejects and Obama type reform Presidency so the theory goes that the next will be a Bryant/Long style President or as the video says a Hugo Chavez type.

August 2, 2012 at 10:28 | Registered Commenterkwawk

I have an alternate theory that says it isn't the left or the occupy movement that is scaring the elite ruling class at this point it is the Tea Party on the right. If any element in our society represents the irrationality of the 'burn down the bakery because there isn't enough bread' mentality it is the Tea Party/Glenn Beck/Michelle Bachman wing of the right.

The Tea Party was created because elements of the Republcian Party for political purposes thought it would be cute to have a bunch of people in funny hats out there trying to damage the Obama administration. But those elements who thought they could could use the Tea Party movement underestimated the anger among that group of the population and have come to realize that they've lost control of their political party, and that the Tea Partiers essentially want to burn our government and economic system to the ground.

But as the Tea Party gains power and in 20 years when Social Security is gone and Medicare is gone, and our safety net is gone and the EPA is gone and we're left with a country with tens of millions of jobs that pay $3/hour, and people can't afford to retire and our environment is destroyed ala China, the tea party folks will get even angrier. They're not likely to turn to a leftist type demogogue, they're more likely to turn even further to the right. Which means fascism.

August 2, 2012 at 10:35 | Registered Commenterkwawk

Holt crap, kwAwk. You don't really believe all that idiotic nonsense, do you? If you do, I would suggest watching fewer Michael Moore movies and watching more Milton Friedman videos.

August 2, 2012 at 11:55 | Registered CommenterRedBeard

And I would suggest reading this article Red....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-conservatives-misread-and-misuse-milton-friedman/2012/07/27/gJQAcrISEX_story.html

August 2, 2012 at 11:59 | Registered Commenterkwawk

Good article. Read more about Friedman. It's good for you. We don't have to agree with him on every point (I don't) to see that the man was a genius.

Try a few short videos, like the following:

http://youtu.be/DYeYPcougmA

http://youtu.be/Rls8H6MktrA

http://youtu.be/gMLjkt87ICo

August 2, 2012 at 14:41 | Registered CommenterRedBeard

Redbeard - There is no doubt that Friedman was a smart man. But so was John Maynard Keynes. So was Adam Smith.

When you limit your political or economic views and positions to simply one side of the argument Friedman and those to his right you're like a car with two nice shiny new Goodyears on the right side and a couple of cinderblocks up under the frame on the other.

One of the biggest give aways in the video that Friedman is overstepping the bounds of his theories and evidence is willingness to speak in absolutes. Trying to do good by force, ie tax collecting, always results in more evil than is prevented. This one is very easy to disprove. If it's true then why are there police in Orange County, California one of the most conservative places in the United States.

The reason, because having a police force paid for by mandatory taxes prevents way more evil deeds than the levy of taxes causes evil.

The same goes for the having the US military. Would you really make an argument that the US would be safer if we simply allowed people to make their own decisions on how much to pay to support the military? Ofcourse not. That would be silly.

It's not that anyone in this country believes that Soviet style totalitarian socialism is a good thing, it's that most people recognize that doing things in the public good doesn't have to result in evil and in fact creates a lot of good.

August 2, 2012 at 20:39 | Registered Commenterkwawk

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