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Jul102012

A Stupid Comment, Even by Joe Biden Standards

"Whoa... Talking gives me a floating feeling"The Vice-Fundraiser was out doing what he does best last night, pandering to Democrat donors at the Seattle Westin hotel where he said...

"Republicans have changed the law so you get arrested if you do vote"

According to the pool reports, Biden was "apparently joking".

He continued on, apparently sober, criticizing Rep. candidate Mitt Romney as worse than former President George W. Bush. 

(per the Weekly Standard)

Biden said Romney's economic policies were, "to paraphrase Bill Clinton, 'George Bush on steroids.'"

He criticized Romney's desire to extend the Bush tax cuts for all Americans and said the Republican Party had changed.

"No more compassionate conservatism, no more health care for everyone … They're saying exactly what they believe, and they mean it," he said.

Still running against George W. Bush, only now he's on drugs.   A winning campaign strategy for sure.   All it needed was some "they want us dead and arrested" for flavor.

Perhaps Democrats should try saying exactly what they believe.   They could start small and say out loud...  "ObamaCare is a tax".   Granted, it's no side-splitting zinger when compared to "we'll arrest you if you vote", but it's certainly a start.    Baby steps... leads to toddling, falling and hitting your head...  which leads to Biden-esque zingers.

 

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Hey, sorry Skinny. Truth stings, I guess.

July 10, 2012 at 09:12 | Registered CommenterWinston

ObamaCare is a tax... ObamaCare is a tax... say it with me Winston... ObamaCare is a tax... ObamaCare is a tax... it'll get easier before it gets harder... . ObamaCare is a tax... ObamaCare is a tax... stay strong... ObamaCare is a tax... ObamaCare is a tax...

July 10, 2012 at 09:24 | Registered Commenterskinnydipinacid

"CAN'T... SAY IT... IT'S... A PENALTY... GAAAAAAGH!!!"
"IMPLEMENTED... BY THE IRS... BECAUSE IT'S EASIER!!!"

July 10, 2012 at 09:26 | Registered Commenterskinnydipinacid

Are you saying Mitt Romney DID raise taxes on Massachusetts citizens after all?

July 10, 2012 at 09:32 | Unregistered CommenterWinston

Republicans have changed the law so you get arrested if you do vote

The Michigan Secretary of State said one thousand five hundred people voted illegally there. If I tell you she’s a Rethuglican, would it surprise you to find out
she’s lying about every single one of them?

Retardicans are determined to strangle American democracy. They have to, because voters hate them and their policies.

July 10, 2012 at 09:41 | Registered CommenterWinston

Republicans don't raise taxes, Winston...they enact exorbitant 'fees.'

July 10, 2012 at 09:44 | Registered CommenterGrayRider

Pennsylvania now has one of the nation’s most restrictive voter ID laws. So few people know about it, that some are concerned complying with it may be difficult or confusing.

Not to worry. Its Rethuglican Governor is Keystone State taxpayers are giving a quarter-million dollars to a Romney fundraiser to implement it reimpose Jim Crow.

These people are despicable. Despicable.

July 10, 2012 at 09:52 | Registered CommenterWinston

WOW... Does it involve showing their ID?

::gasp::

"oh the humanity"

Obviously... there's no just WAY any minority and/or Democrat voters will be able to make it to the DMV by... uh, November 6th.
Despicable... DESPICABLE I TELL YA!

July 10, 2012 at 10:11 | Registered Commenterskinnydipinacid

So, Winston...are these disenfranchised voters mostly welfare recipients or on some other government program?

July 10, 2012 at 10:12 | Registered CommenterGrayRider

I remember clowning on some jackass over at the local paper's site because he used the whole "my mom won't be able to vote because she doesn't have an driver's license".... like a year and a half ago. Really, you can't take dear old mom to the DMV and get her a state ID?
What kind of a deadbeat, low-life son can't take dear old mom to get a state ID in some time over the next 2 years? Answer: A Democrat one, apparently.

Bunch of phony outrage.

July 10, 2012 at 10:17 | Registered Commenterskinnydipinacid

Needing an ID to board a plane, bus, buy liquor, buy a car, buy a motorcycle, take out a loan, buy pharmaceuticals, drive, travel, ticket will-call and plus some fifty other examples is soooo racist. What galls the demwits is that Americans by a huge percentage find the request to show ID when voting perfectly reasonable. Their just sure somewhere a half black-half white Kenyan descendent with a fake memoir is going to be denied to vote in a Chicago alderman election.

The whining little tears break my heart.

July 10, 2012 at 10:28 | Unregistered CommenterThomas Miller

Skinny;

When it comes to Joe Biden all his statements are stupid. After nearly four years of Obama Americans understand perfectly the fit "Slow Joe" is to Barack Obama. That is anyone standing next to Joe Biden looks like f.....g genius. Why do you think Obama is praised as being so smart? I know, I know lol, under Obama's shirt you just know he's wearing a t-shirt that say "I'm With Stupid" and that arrow always points at Joe Biden.

July 10, 2012 at 10:34 | Unregistered CommenterThomas Miller

are these disenfranchised voters mostly welfare recipients or on some other government program?

Well, here’s one of them. But thanks, Grayrider. I do appreciate it every time wingnuts acknowledge publicly they feel people shouldn’t be allowed to vote unless they’ve got a little money. It does clarify matters.

Just like when they explicitly acknowledge the whole point of this despicable exercise is delivering the state for Romney.

July 10, 2012 at 10:36 | Registered CommenterWinston

Tom, no one ever shed blood for the right to ticket will-call. But I presume you understand that perfectly well and are just acting dumb.

Hmmm. On second thought . . . .

July 10, 2012 at 10:39 | Registered CommenterWinston

I do appreciate it every time wingnuts acknowledge publicly they feel people shouldn’t be allowed to vote unless they’ve got a little money.

I didn't mean that at all. It's just that opponents of I.D. laws always point to a particular class of poor people. If that's true, and this segment of the population are indeed receiving government assistance, then they would have to have photo I.D. in order to receive the benefits.

July 10, 2012 at 10:47 | Registered CommenterGrayRider

No Winston it was a well executed example of how clueless people such as yourself are on the issue of verifying who you are before you vote. Shouldn't we have a standard that’s at least as stringent as picking up tickets at will-call? Oh' sorry you don't. As LBJ once said in Texas "there are a lot of people in this cemetery who haven't voted yet."

July 10, 2012 at 11:00 | Unregistered CommenterThomas Miller

Maybe Democrats could become proactive and pander to the poor / minorities / anybody else they assume underprivileged and incapable of getting across town between now and 4 months from now, not by belittling the opposition, but holding drives to help get people out and REGISTERED to vote (much in the way they bus people to get out and vote).

However, it's easier to just run around screaming about racist Republicans wanting you to die and throw you and jail (not to mention the added bonus of a perfectly good negative campaign that comes with... something Democrats feel they need this year to survive).

F.Y.I... We on the right do that already with our vets, elderly and anybody else that calls the County Republican HQ in hopes of getting a ride. We have volunteers willing to do that.
It's called kindness.... pass it on.

July 10, 2012 at 11:00 | Registered Commenterskinnydipinacid

Maybe Democrats could become proactive and pander to the poor / minorities . . . by . . . holding drives to help get people out and REGISTERED to vote

Aw, Skinny, wake up and smell the coffee, willya? These laws are designed to obstruct exactly such voter registration drives.

I didn't mean that at all. It's just that opponents of I.D. laws always point to a particular class of poor people. If that's true, and this segment of the population are indeed receiving government assistance, then they would have to have photo I.D. in order to receive the benefits.

You meant exactly that. I don’t at all oppose voters having to identify themselves. The first big giveaway though, is how very difficult, inconvenient, and expensive Republicans want to make it to do that—and for whom. Some voters work two or even three jobs. Some voters are in wheelchairs. Some older voters from the Jim Crow South literally can’t get birth certificates. (By the way, your argument that people who receive government assistance already have IDs is asinine: many poor people don’t get assistance, but beyond that wingnuts would be the first to squawk about creating an additional incentive to get on government assistance, so as not to be barred from voting.)
But there’s another big giveaway, too: impersonating a voter has got to be the highest-risk, lowest-payoff “scam” ever invented. That’s why you can barely come up with any instances at all of it actually happening anywhere. You’re fabricating a fanciful and largely nonexistent “problem” in order to engineer massive voter suppression--just admit it. But we’d expect no less from people whose policies are wildly unpopular. They can’t win fairly.

July 10, 2012 at 12:00 | Registered CommenterWinston

Oh, ok...I see.

July 10, 2012 at 12:14 | Registered CommenterGrayRider

Aw, Skinny, wake up and smell the coffee, willya?

Perhaps you just need to put down the bath salts... there's a pretty big difference between taking a person to a state-affiliated entity to get him/her an ID and registered as a voter through the state versus a 3rd party organization doing it all for them at an external site, a la ACORN.

That's precisely how fraud can occur, considering that when done by either side of the aisle, their efforts are generally being fueled by a partisan movement. The state takes more precautions... and they're fair.

(ObamaCare is a Tax... you can do it... ObamaCare is a tax... ObamaCare is a tax...)

July 10, 2012 at 12:21 | Registered Commenterskinnydipinacid

Third party registration drives always saved local governments lots of time and money. But beyond that, Republicans would fight tooth and nail staffing up such "state-affiliated entities" to make that easy or convenient. They'd much prefer that prospective voters have to stand in lines for hours. They can't win otherwise, they're that unpopular.

I'm really done listening to you folks spin your disingenuous yarns and fairy tales about "precisely how fraud can occur." Either produce some actual voter fraud (and I mean people voting who shouldn't) or STFU. So far you’ve produced nothing but an immense amount of hot air and an impressive catalogue of outright lies.

July 10, 2012 at 12:44 | Registered CommenterWinston

“83% of Docs May Quit Over Obamcare!”

Hey, why stand around waiting for Tom Miller to get around to pimping the fake news fresh bullshit?

You can read it here first. Eliminate the middleman, go straight to the south end of a northbound bull.

Sometime in the last decade, Nooshans quit even pretending governing interests them. They’re a full-time PR shop, period.

July 10, 2012 at 12:44 | Registered CommenterWinston

Shorter Winston: "We're LOSING the fight to get illegals and other ineligible people to vote! Quick, run in circles, scream wildly, and tear at hair!"

July 10, 2012 at 12:56 | Unregistered CommenterRedBeard

Biden sober is nuttier than most drunks. That picture of him could be the average schwacked speaker at a wedding reception, trying to slur out the words: "Stop me if you've heard this one."

What a joke he is. And a scary one, being the barely sentient dope who is one heartbeat away. The country would be in better hands with Gilbert Gottfried as V.P.

July 10, 2012 at 13:14 | Unregistered CommenterRedBeard

Shorter Redbeard: “F*** them.”

July 10, 2012 at 13:16 | Unregistered CommenterWinston

Redbeard, I've noticed you never address my arguments. You don't offer any evidence people impersonated voters and cast illegitimate ballots. You neither acknowledge nor dispute there are easy ways we could ensure only legitimate voters get into voting booths with ballots.

All you do is accuse me of trying to steal an election. Given that you're going to enormous lengths purporting to solve a nearly completely fabricated "problem," it's the most transparent projection.

July 10, 2012 at 13:46 | Unregistered CommenterWinston

Yes, I'm angry--very angry--at this naked power grab--but the only ones running in circles, screaming and tearing their hair are the people demanding to erect extensive obstacles in front of hundreds of thousands or even millions of legitimate voters to "solve" a complete non-problem.

i guess that's what you have to do when your candidates and policies suck.

July 10, 2012 at 13:58 | Unregistered CommenterWinston

Can't say Obamacare is a tax. Very disingenuous. I can, and have been saying that the penaltty for not buying insurance is a tax. Nothing spectacular about that. The mandate penalty tax is but a small portion of Obamacare.

Let's take this the other way now. We've seen that 5 or 6 Republican states are going to opt out of the medicaid expansion just to be contrarian. That will expose a lot of people who would have qualified for medicaid to the tax penalty for not having insurance. Can Skinny admit that Republicans are raising taxes on those people?

I suspect myself that a big part of the Republican panic to try to tear down Obamacare is that Republicans are starting to realize what a big mistake they made by branding it Obamacare. Ten years from now when everybody is used to the insurance exchanges and we have universal insurance coverage and people don't live in fear of losing their insurance when they get sick and it becomes the norm that kids can stay on their insurance until 26 and everybody is used to getting their insurance tax credits in the mail to help with paying for insurance coverage, and people don't have to be scared of changing jobs or starting up a small business because of a lack of insurance coverage.....

Then Republicans will insist on calling it anything but Obamacare. Then they'll non-stop be reminiding people how much of it was based upon their ideas.

July 10, 2012 at 13:58 | Registered Commenterkwawk

Winston - I've noticed that too. When Republicans recognize that they're in a position of weakness they start accusing the other side of having that weakness so that when their weaknesses are addressed it sounds to low information voters like an 'I'm rubber and you're glue' type thing.

July 10, 2012 at 14:00 | Registered Commenterkwawk

Kwawk, you may not have any problem calling Obamacare's "mandate" a tax, but that just indicates that you're honest. Obama certainly has a problem, after vehemently denying that it would be a tax, during the circus act he ran to sell the whole basket of crap to Congress.

July 10, 2012 at 14:39 | Unregistered CommenterRedBeard

Ten years from now when everybody is used to the insurance exchanges and we have universal insurance coverage and people don't live in fear of losing their insurance when they get sick and it becomes the norm that kids can stay on their insurance until 26 and everybody is used to getting their insurance tax credits in the mail to help with paying for insurance coverage, and people don't have to be scared of changing jobs or starting up a small business because of a lack of insurance coverage.....

Then Republicans will insist on calling it anything but Obamacare. Then they'll non-stop be reminiding people how much of it was based upon their ideas.

Or...people will wonder why pols weren't paying more attention to what happened to Greece and Cuba.

July 10, 2012 at 15:09 | Registered CommenterGrayRider

The Democrat Voter Fraud Playbook is as follows:

1. ACORN registers the names, legitimate or not.

2. Black Panther, SEIU and other “community organizer” groups intimidate people, especially minorities, from voting Republican.

3. Voter lists remain unscrubbed of felons, dead people, and illegal immigrants.

4. On Election Day, precinct workers submit any unused ballots for Democrat candidates.

5. Democrat officials and politicians pretend like nothing happened.

July 10, 2012 at 15:11 | Registered CommenterGrayRider

"Winston - I've noticed that too. When Republicans recognize that they're in a position of weakness they start accusing the other side of having that weakness"

No, we accuse the other side who accuses us and then we accuse them when they accuse us then we accuse them and they then accuse us so we accuse them when they accuse us so we accuse them when they then accuse us so we accuse them when they accuse us ..................................................................................

BTW, have you seen all the vile, violent and vulgar shit the kind, peaceful, tolerant and generous of heart liberal left has been throwing at Brad Pitt's mom for expressing her "hateful" views and opinions about "faggots" and "black precedent's." It is always better to belong I reckon.

July 10, 2012 at 15:18 | Registered CommenterTijuana

That moniker "vote early and vote often" is so unfair to democrats.

July 10, 2012 at 15:19 | Unregistered CommenterThomas Miller

It's so distressing to dems on Obamacare that they front-loaded the bill with goodies and it's still hated by over 60% of Americans. Wait until the castor oil starts to get served in 2013.

July 10, 2012 at 15:22 | Unregistered CommenterThomas Miller

Skinny;

I see the savior of the planet was in Cedar Rapids today talking about his vacations on Greyhound buses and staying at Howard Johnson. Are there a lot of Howard Johnson's in Hawaii? Are bus trips around Oahu really a vacation? Obama is 24/7 fountain of bullshit. He wasn't off the stage and that story was already being called out 100% bullshit. Maybe in his next 'composite' memoir Barry can regal us with more HoJo stories. LOL.

July 10, 2012 at 15:28 | Unregistered CommenterThomas Miller

Obama is 24/7 fountain of bullshit.

--Tom Miller (no, seriously)

Ah, too funny. Could I make that up? Come on, I’m not that creative. The Firehose of Crap ™ calls the President a bullshit fountain. Good times!

July 10, 2012 at 15:46 | Unregistered CommenterWinston

"vote early and vote often"

“Having no evidence whatsoever of actual illegal voting, I’ll substitute a quip from Lyndon Johnson and a jaunty catch-phrase.”

The Democrat Voter Fraud Playbook

Find some illegal voters. Find someone who voted illegally. Produce an election that turned on phonies impersonating legitimate voters. Come on, Nooshans. You can’t. Otherwise it’s just Reality vs. Wingnuts’ Fevered Imagination. Highest-risk, lowest-payoff “scam” ever conceived.

Their white-knuckled, disciplined determination to ignore all demands for evidence makes me suspect they’re profoundly cynical. Even they don’t believe their own transparent BS. They just need to keep voters out of the booths. It’s about winning by disenfranchising people, it’s really no more complicated than that.

July 10, 2012 at 16:11 | Unregistered CommenterWinston

Ok, ok I'm the one who finally took the bait to shut Winston up on this "no voter fraud" bullshit. Here is one link to about a thousand listed on Google. I spelled Googel for you since this may be a new resource for you. Do you need help in where to type it in your tool bar too?

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/minnesota-leads-the-nation-in-voter-fraud-convictions-131782928.html

July 10, 2012 at 16:42 | Unregistered CommenterThomas Miller

That's GOOGLE, not Googel. Bring it on, I deserve it.

July 10, 2012 at 16:44 | Unregistered CommenterThomas Miller

Now Gray stop, your being vindictive. Wasn't one post enough to counter Winston's whopper of the year that "“Having no evidence whatsoever of actual illegal voting." Did you really need to pour it on?

July 10, 2012 at 17:03 | Unregistered CommenterThomas Miller

Uh oh!! NAACP requires a photo I.D. to hear Eric Holder speak!

July 10, 2012 at 17:29 | Registered CommenterGrayRider

Tom and Gray Rider, those links are far more pathetic than I even expected, and I expected very little.

You are ridiculous. You have nothing. And you you know it.

July 10, 2012 at 18:36 | Unregistered CommenterWinston

I see little Winston is getting himself worked up over his favorite distraction again.

July 10, 2012 at 18:45 | Registered CommenterMachiavelli

Good catch, Grayrider.

To quote Winston the Juvenile, regarding that amusing NAACP photo ID requirement double standard: HaHaHaHaHaHa!

July 10, 2012 at 19:27 | Unregistered CommenterRedBeard

Tom and Gray Rider, those links are far more pathetic than I even expected, and I expected very little.

You are ridiculous. You have nothing. And you you know it.


Yes, all lies. Because your George Soros funded news sources say so. Thanks for setting us straight, oh bastion of truth and hater of those with Down's Syndrome. You're awesome.

July 10, 2012 at 21:14 | Registered CommenterGrayRider

Wow, stunning. What a colossal mountain of fail. Wingnuts apparently can't find a single person they can name who's been convicted of walking into a polling station and claiming to be someone else and voting in their name. NOT ONE. Think about that.

Plenty of attempts by paid-on-commission registration gatherers trying to pad out their registration lists (NOT VOTER FRAUD). Plenty of free-floating allegations (NOT VOTER FRAUD). Plenty of propagandizing websites alleging how widespread voter fraud is, no names please, because George Soros Ooga-booga!! (NOT VOTER FRAUD) We've even got conspiracy to keep lists of registrants in your car trunk longer than the statutory ten days (NOT VOTER FRAUD, folks).

VOTER FRAUD is someone who actually cast a vote they weren't entitled to cast. When all's said and done, they can't point to any. NONE. Think about that. That's the "problem" they want to solve by hassling hundreds of thousands or rmillions of legitimate voters.

Grayrider, give me a name. Name someone who voted fraudulently or else STFU. You are ridiculous. You are preposterous. OK, the nation is crawling with fraudulent voters, so NAME ONE already!! .

July 10, 2012 at 21:32 | Unregistered CommenterWinston

A mountain of evidence was provided for you, yet you continue to debate in the basest form, Winston. Call me a name or tell me to STFU once more, and I'll use my ability to buy a plane ticket and give you the opportunity to address me to my face.

You're nothing more than a keyboard commando masquerading as a man.

July 10, 2012 at 21:37 | Registered CommenterGrayRider

Grayrider, give me a name. Name someone who voted fraudulently or else STFU

OK, you asked for one, here's three, found in a short period of time...you pathetic asshole.

Venustiano Hernandez-Hernandez.

Jada Woods Williams and Abra Hill Johnson

July 10, 2012 at 21:53 | Registered CommenterGrayRider

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