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Oct162012

LIVE: 2012 Presidential Debate Number Two - The Town Hall Forum / Open Thread

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Have you seen the video of Romney at the Al Smith Dinner?

Not bad, the boy can bring some funny.

10 minutes of some pretty witty comments by Mr. Romney.

October 18, 2012 at 22:47 | Registered CommenterDuff, man

Derp 2 - the sequel

Not only funny, but you simply have to read the last line where it says "Update".

October 19, 2012 at 00:20 | Registered Commenterskinnydipinacid

"I will take heart that at least on this issue I seem to have finally gotten you to admit that the right wing propaganda machine was wrong in their trumpeting of the Jeff Sessions report"

I have no clue what point kwawk is trying to make here. The one I do know is we spent something close to a trillion dollars in 2011 on programs deemed to be welfare. A 32% increase in four years. Unsustainable under any tax rates. The financial reckoning that is coming is going to make all these money discussions look so small in hindsight.

October 19, 2012 at 06:18 | Unregistered CommenterThomas Miller

DERP Part II is pretty funny, all the way around. Stones, glass house. Emperor, no clothes. All that stuff.

Tom, if you can ever figure out what kwAwk is trying to say, please let me know. He's so wrapped up in senseless leftie talking points and silly mantras like Corporate Personhood that there's just no telling. Meanwhile, let's take away the right of his precious unions to be "persons" and to make political ads, and listen to him scream in agony.

October 19, 2012 at 06:30 | Unregistered CommenterRedBeard

Just watched the Al Smith dinner speeches by Obama & Romney. Both were pretty good but Romney just seems so much looser. His joke that he (Mitt) has his wife Anne to lean on during this election and Obama has Bill Clinton was pretty damm funny.

October 19, 2012 at 06:46 | Unregistered CommenterThomas Miller

“Corporations are people, my friend,” Romney said.

Known leftist and union sympathizer Willard M. Romney explaining to the masses the position of leftists everywhere.

In any case, if you guys were more critical of your own news sources when they publish something stupid, ala the Sessions report on Welfare</> you would be rewarded with better quality news and commentary. If indeed better quality news and commentary is what you really want.

When MSNBC got taken in by the whole Gilligan and Stench thing, did I waste a moment trying to defend them? Ofcourse not.

October 19, 2012 at 09:51 | Registered Commenterkwawk

Are you just pretending not to understand what Romney was saying about corporations, or are you really totally under the influence of the Koolaid? In the same sense exactly, unions are people, my friend.

October 19, 2012 at 10:23 | Unregistered CommenterRedBeard

you would be rewarded with better quality news and commentary. If indeed better quality news and commentary is what you really want.

They don't. They far prefer having their bigotry, resentment and feelings of persecution and victimhood reinforced. The con is very old and its techniques well-developed. Historically, the places it leads to are extremely ugly.

October 19, 2012 at 10:32 | Unregistered CommenterWinston

I see it's "bigotry" today instead of "racism." Nice to get a change-up once in a while.

October 19, 2012 at 10:40 | Registered CommenterRedBeard

I'm not pretending to misunderstand what Romney said nor am I misunderstanding what he has said in actuality. His point is that corporations are merely fronts for people and as such they represent people.

My contention would be that the people who are organizing as corporations are inherently declaring themselves to be separate from that corporation. Thus from a legal standpoint the owners of the corporation would not be having their first amendment right violated by restrictions to giving to political campaigns.

My other contention is that a corporation is formed by submitting for approval articles of incorporation to the government for approval, a strictly legal document, and that since government is granting the right to exist of the corporation, government should know which rights and priviliges it meant for the corporation to have.

October 19, 2012 at 11:23 | Registered Commenterkwawk

Corporations are made up of people. So are unions.

October 19, 2012 at 13:13 | Unregistered CommenterRedBeard

Well, "bigotry" encompasses a little more. Fact is, they don't want better quality news and commentary. They far prefer having their racism, homophobia, misogyny, class privilege, jingoism, resentment, and feelings of persecution and victimhood reinforced. The con is very old and its techniques well-developed. Historically, the places it leads to are extremely ugly ultimately horrific.

October 19, 2012 at 13:27 | Unregistered CommenterWinston

Corporations are made up of people. So are unions.

True enough. But unions were created to strengthen individual workers’ bargaining power vis-à-vis more powerful employers, while corporations were created to shield investors from personal legal liability.
I’d be perfectly willing to outlaw union campaign contributions along with corporate ones if that were the deal; both are corrupting. But for all rightwingers whine about union campaign money, they’d never take that deal: corporations and business and industry groups vastly outspend unions.

October 19, 2012 at 13:36 | Registered CommenterWinston

They far prefer having their racism, homophobia, misogyny, class privilege, jingoism...

Oh, my goodness! Look at all that utter crap crammed into one short phrase. What a nice summary of leftist imbecility. Thanks, Winston, for not wasting excessive bandwidth with one of your usual rambling and incoherent posts. Short and sweet. That's the way.

October 19, 2012 at 14:01 | Unregistered CommenterRedBeard

State governments are made up of people too. Perhaps we should allow State Governments to give money to political campaigns.

Let me ask Red. When a corporation is giving money to a campaign, whose money are they giving?

October 19, 2012 at 15:26 | Registered Commenterkwawk

Look at all that utter crap crammed into one short phrase. What a nice summary of leftist imbecility. Thanks, Winston

No, thank YOU. I consider it worthwhile every time I can coax some rightwing wackadoodle to sneer openly their support for bigotry in all its rancid forms.

October 19, 2012 at 17:15 | Unregistered CommenterWinston

No, no, Winnie... really, I'm serious, it's not necessary for you to keep proving what a twat you are (to borrow a colorful term from your darling Obamaton Eva Longoria).

October 19, 2012 at 18:41 | Unregistered CommenterRedBeard

And yet I know how deeply your compassion runs for those suffering the lash of persecution and stereotyping.

Red and friends forge new frontiers in victim-mongering. Till "things get a little crazy.”

October 20, 2012 at 11:53 | Registered CommenterWinston

Shoot. Double-posted one link and dropped another.
Here’s the one to the folks Red likes palling around with.

October 20, 2012 at 13:11 | Registered CommenterWinston

Eva Longoria's twat is of interest to me.

October 20, 2012 at 14:30 | Registered Commenterkwawk

Poor, poor Winnie. You can't come up with anything remotely close to an intellectually credible insult. It would be so much easier if you could take in facts, process them, and then post something close to logical. I'm not holding my breath.

Here, out of sheer pity for you Winnie, due to your deranged and frantic need to find racism in everything and everyone regardless of whether it actually exists, I'll try to help. Here's a supply of your favorite word, all printed out and ready to go, Feel free to use them.

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You're welcome.

Later, we'll get out the Dick, Jane and Spot books, and see if you can spell C-A-T.

October 20, 2012 at 17:41 | Unregistered CommenterRedBeard

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