Monday
05Jan
Ladies and Gentlemen, Your New Senator From Minnesota
Winston
And, yes, I do so love the sounds of tiny wingnut heads exploding all across America's purple mountains' majesty and amber waves of grain. Pip! Pip! Pip!
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Who are you kidding? That guy doesn' t have a chance of getting elected!
More likely the title for now of "illegitimate victor." As has been well documented, therer has been rampant fraud in the vote counting since election night that in everyones memory for Minnesota politics hasexclusively favored Franken. It seems the partisan election board has some explaining to do along with ex-ACORN official Mark Ritchie on why:
1). According to Minniesota election laws if a recount is orderd the recount toal must be used to certify the election, NOT the election night vote. Yet, seeing recount votes go agianst Franken in some districts our friends on the canvassing board have refused to certify the recount vote. I other districts where Franken profits from the recount total, you guessed it. Certify and move on!
2). In other districts that lean dem, we have more votes than voters. Again, it favors Franken so nothing to see here and let's move on say's the canvassing board and you guessed it, certify that districts vote and move on!
The dem state party and MN other dimwit lib Sen. have tried to imply that this recount is definitve and seat Franken this week as the new Senator from Minnesota even though Republicans & Coleman have called this vote recount fraud that would make New Jersey or Chicago blush and will challenge it in court.
Yes your democratic party. If it's not corrupt dems in IL. or Governors in New Mexico selling access to there office or NY Senators executing quid pro quo for campaign donations for federal grants, the party of corruption is in command.
Pip!
"IT'S NOT WHO GETS THE MOST VOTES, BUT WHO COUNTS THEM"
Joseph Stalin
More likely the title for now of "illegitimate victor." As has been well documented, there has been rampant fraud in the vote count since election night that in Minnesota politics has exclusively favored Franken. It seems the partisan election board has some explaining to do along with ex-ACORN official Mark Ritchie on why:
1). According to Minnesota election laws if a recount is ordered the recount total must be used to certify the election, NOT the election night vote. Yet, seeing recount votes go against Franken in some districts our friends on the canvassing board have refused to certify the recount vote. I other districts where Franken profits from the recount total, you guessed it. Certify and move on!
2). In other districts that lean dem, we have more votes than voters. Again, it favors Franken so nothing to see here and let's move on say's the canvassing board and you guessed it, certify that districts vote and move on!
3). Minnestota law says you must not count bot the original and duplicate vote in the final tally. In a district where it helped Franken, 133 votes were counted at least twice that neted Franken a gain of 46 votes. Sec. State Rictchie, fine, move on nothing to see here.
The dem state party and Minnesota's other dimwit lib Sen. Klobuchar have tried to imply that this recount is definitive and seat Franken this week as the new Senator from Minnesota even though Republicans & Coleman have called this vote recount a fraud that would make New Jersey or Chicago blush and will challenge it in court. Therefore by Minnesota law the Senator can't be seated. The Minnesota dem response, to hell with the law!
Yes your democratic party. If it's not corrupt dems Governor's in IL. or New Mexico selling access to there office or NY Senators executing quid pro quo help for donors when they make campaign donations for a certian impeached ex-president; it's 2009 and the party of corruption is now in command.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123111967642552909.html
Don't know what happened there. Stepped away for awile and it posted but the comments were still in the post box?
Didja hit the back button?
As for "Senator" Franken, I'm hoping and praying he gets seated. The entertainment value will be absolutely priceless, as the Dem party tries to explain him to America.
Pip! Pip!
Dems can start the fun by answering this article's charges.
Count every vote! Twice, if need be!
lol... and who ever said politics is no laughing matter?
come to think of it, this is the funniest joke of Franken's career.
There is already an abundance of dem idiots in the Senate and the need for more for 'comedy' value would just be overkill. I'm concerned with the issues ahead of us and the "Senator Franken's" of the world are ill-prepared, ill-suited and morally empty to make any of the right choices for America.
It just gets better or worse on how you want to look at it. You know Al Franken democrat of the party that says count every vote? Well there are 650 absentee votes from Republican leaning districts he doesn't want counted and will sue to stop have counted. This from the man who benefited from two votes for every dem voter, votes produced from dem official car trunks and more votes than voters.
By all means, let's bring more dems to the Senate.
I don't feel the need to defend any charges. First and foremost because I've already stated that they should have a runoff election. Instant Runoff voting would be a great change to our electoral system.
The second reason I don't feel the need to speak to the charges is that you folks are the same ones that wanted to pretend that in 2000 and 2004 Katherine Harris and Ken Blackwell did everything they could to be fair an impartial in the counting of the votes and that they had no influence on the outcome of the election.
I'll go ahead and pretend to have been won over by your extraordinary logic regarding the impartiality of secretary's of state.
Kettle calls pot black.
Perfect fit for the party of comedians and crazies. Lead on, lead on.... LOL
And PIP! this (can you see it, sure you can)
Ninety per cent (or more) of being a Nooshan is projection.
In my state alone, four Rethuglicans were either convicted of or pled guilty to federal election tampering charges. (There's plenty of evidence they were coordinated from the White House, but under the omerta principle, that's as far as prosecutors could get.) Yet still, each even remotely close election the Alabama Party loses prompts its now-routine squeals of "Democratic voting fraud" (evidence optional).
Pip! Pip! Pip!
I don't think Franken would stand a chance in an instant runoff vote, and the Dems already know that. The only thing that put him in the race was the faithful Obama supporters who voted along the party line. Without the Obamabots coming to his aid, Franken would suffer a defeat.
I'm pretty certain more than two hundred and some voters would opt to stay home instead of trekking out to cast their vote for him. A runoff would be nothing less than handing victory over to the Republicans. Given the chance, the Republicans would come out in droves in a special election, but the percentage Democrats that would give the SNL character their distinct support is far fewer.
Also, any side wanting to debunk the absentee ballots of one, and attempt to reassure us all that "lost ballots in a trunk" seems like a much more legit argument...
or as Coleman spokesman Mark Drake put it:
This whole debacle is becoming more and more ridiculous as the days go on. Meanwhile we have Chuck Schumer declaring victories, completely ignoring the seven-day waiting period before an election certificate is completed (you know... because that something a member of the Senate Rules Committee can do.. duh).
I liked what Senator Cornyn had to say on that matter.
Per MSNBC:
This does point out Schumer's obvious thinking with his heart and not his head.
Shouldn't that be "Evil Genius and Global Criminal Mastermind Chuck Schumer"?
Gratz to Franken, and I hope he represents his constituents with more class than he has displayed in the past.
If Franken reforms himself, wonderful. If not, his state (the half of it, give or take, that voted for him) deserves what it gets.
"Shouldn't that be "Evil Genius and Global Criminal Mastermind Chuck Schumer"?"
lmao... I'll remember that next time, just for you Winston. ;o)
I believe though that we decided to shorten it to EGaGCM Chuck Shumer (D)
Just use "putz."
"(There's plenty of evidence they were coordinated from the White House, but under the omerta principle, that's as far as prosecutors could get.)"
You really need to change your reading sources windy, you are way past losing it.
Say, don’t you ever tire of being ridiculous wankers?
Maybe that steady diet of FauxNews and Rush isn't (gasp!) keeping you informed.
It IS entertaining when actually convicted and jailed election crooks keep shrieking "voting fraud!" . . . projection really constitutes about ninety-five percent of Nooshan identity, dunnit?
Let me see; an unelected NY Governor who has admitted to smoking crack and cheating on his wife who replaced a whore-banging Dem-Governor is selecting a Senate replacement named Kennedy who can’t be bothered to vote for Senator Clinton who sells her office for Presidential library donations to her dem-impeached husband and a soon to be indicted Capone style Dem-Governor from IL has sent to D.C some poor slob who will be blocked at the door of the Senate by the Sergeant-at-Arms. Whew!!! It's legislative time in D.C and the democrats are back in town!
Ah, tiny little Nooshan heads exploding all over town! Pip! Pip pip pip!
Skinny -- I personally don't care if Franken stands a chance in a run-off election, it just seems like the most logical and fair way to decide this election. A run off election would put the 15% that the third party candidate got , back into play. Considering Obama beat McCain in MN 54-44 it would seem that the majority of that 15% that voted for Barkeley were Obama voters.
kwAwk;
Since Barkley describes his political views as leaning libertarian and w/o exception libertarians vote Republican when they feel the candidate reflects there views, you would be wrong to assume that 15% who voted for Barkley would have been * Sen. Franken voters.
*Stole recount election.
TM - Barkley is a mamber Jesse Ventura's party which is more of a centrist party as opposed to a right wing liberatarian party. It would be hard to classify outright how many Barkley voters would have voted for Franken or Coleman but it seems like the comparison with the Presidential voters would seem to imply that Franken would win a run off.
If Obama beat McCain 54 - 44 and the results for the Senate were Franken 41 Coleman 41 and Barkeley 15. Then if you believe that Barkely voters were like Ron Paul Republicans you would have to believe that 15 percentage points of people who voted for Obama voted for Coleman. Certainly is possible, but is it a realistic assumption? I don't think so.
Well, I agree with you that MN is indeed a Democrat state, but I'm just saying that Franken is no Barack Obama and he'd never muster up a 10-point victory without the Hope-aholics and Change junkies coming out in droves to support his party's Presidential nominee. It'd be fair, that is correct, just don't expect a Democrat state to expanding their thoughts and ways into the direction of logical and fair... it'll never happen. Not in this election cycle.
In a perfect world my friend... but...
What a strange world the Dem-controlled Senate is these days, and the new players are even stranger. Franken gets in, Burris gets shut out.
kwAwk;
If you think the typical Barkley voter who leans libertarian i.e. less government would turn around and voter for Franken who proposes MASSIVE government intervention in the private sector; your misreading the election dynamics. That's not how the 15% would vote.
TM - You are misreading Barkley in a big way. Barkley was in fact the only candidate in the MN Senate race who was for the bailout. He is also against overturning Roe vs Wade. He is for allowing college graduates to work off their college loans through civic work. He also supports same sex marriage.
He is rather conservative on issues like deficits and immigration. He is an old time conservative as opposed to an anti-government wingnut masquerading as a libertarian.
kwAwk;
Roe v. Wade is the one major agreement between libertarians and liberals. Yet off of one policy agreement, you build an argument made of tissue for Franken. The college fund thing isn't on any libertarian’s radar and a red herring. Having debated you for the last two years you think your always right and will debate shit into the ground past any sense of interest. Debate on with yourself.
You have my sincere apologies TM. From now on I will periodically debate you from a perspective of thinking I am wrong just to change things up a bit.
And if at any point you get bored with a debate, just do as I do, move on to the next thread.