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Wednesday
15Oct

Ohio Election Fraud Fiasco

The court has forced the hand of Jennifer Brunner, Ohio's partisan Democrat Secretary of State, and will require that she stop sitting on a huge number of questionable registrations, and do sometrhing about them to insure a clean vote:

http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/10/15/copy/CHECK_FRAUD.ART_ART_10-15-08_A1_0KBJT68.html?adsec=politics&sid=101

Then info became available that the number of questionable registrations that Brunner was sitting on was astounding, approximately 200,000 of them.  Brunner's reaction?  Disingenuously whine about some vague threat of voter suppression: 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/10/jennifer_brunner_says_courts_d.html

And finally, here's a nice story about another case of Ohio vote fraud, in which a gang of tricksters used one house address to sign up a bunch of people who don't actually live in Ohio.  Any guesses as to their choice for president? 

http://www.palestra.net/videos/play/17193


Hat tip(s) to Michelle Malkin and Ace of Spades

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Reader Comments (16)

She's in the tank here.

October 16, 2008 at 00:02 | Registered CommenterGrayRider

The full 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals then ruled 9-6 that Brunner must provide access to a state database showing new voters whose registration information does not match records with the state Bureau of Motor Vehicles or federal Social Security Administration.
Note that this is the same sort of "DMV comparison" that led to a 20% error rate in Wisconsin, and the same "Social Security check" that the SSA says has a 28% error rate.


How much time would YOU invest in a test that was wrong every third time?

October 16, 2008 at 10:03 | Registered Commenterwesmorgan1

Gray, keep us posted on Brunner's follow-through on the court order. It will be interesting to see how she juggles both of her duties, hiding the problems and getting Obama elected.

October 16, 2008 at 10:03 | Registered CommenterRedbeard

Brunner said:

In a statement late last night, Brunner, a Democrat, called it "essential" that voters whose registration information matches either the motor vehicle or Social Security records "are left inviolate to vote a regular ballot on or before Election Day."
Would you consider this a reasonable position, given the high error rates found in the uses of each database? Is matching one of the two databases sufficient?

October 16, 2008 at 10:10 | Registered Commenterwesmorgan1

What is "essential" is to get Brunner to do the job she's paid to do, instead of running a branch office of the DNC.

October 16, 2008 at 10:22 | Registered CommenterRedbeard

Come on, can't we even discuss the problem (and we agree that there's a problem) without the smearing?

It's an honest question - if a registration matches one of the two databases checked (DMV and Social Security), should it be considered valid? Given that, as far as I know, no concerted effort has been made to synchronize the two--my state stopped using SSNs on driver licenses years ago--do we throw the voter into provisional-ballot land because his state government didn't do its part, or do we say that a "one of the two" match is OK?

The question is important because Brunner doesn't set that policy. It's up to local election officials, who ultimately choose to disqualify, investgate, or accept the registrations for their county. So, we're looking at a patchwork of rulings across the various county election boards; that CAN'T be a good outcome.

You want to talk about potential problems? Brunner was, at least, presenting a single stopping point for the process. Now, we're going to have as many as 88 different answers to the same question. (There are 88 county election boards in Ohio.) I'd guess that this is going to flush out at least a few equal protection claims from all sides. Is this really an improvement?

October 16, 2008 at 11:45 | Registered Commenterwesmorgan1

The positions conservatives take about voting registration drives, voting requirements, and the mechanics of conducting elections only make sense when you premise that they really would rather a lot of people stay home and don't vote. That's their preference.

October 16, 2008 at 11:49 | Registered CommenterWinston

The positions conservatives take about voting registration drives, voting requirements, and the mechanics of conducting elections only make sense when you premise that they really would rather a lot of people stay home and don't vote. That's their preference.

That just might be, the most ludicrous and misdirecting comment of the day...possibly the week.

October 16, 2008 at 12:05 | Registered CommenterGrayRider

Consider the author, Gray. Ludicrous and misleading comments are his life's work. Well, that plus calling conservatives racists. That takes time also.

October 16, 2008 at 12:51 | Registered CommenterRedbeard

"here's a nice story about another case of Ohio vote fraud"

That's not vote fraud. That's REGISTRATION fraud. Not condoning it--it should be fully prosecuted--but they're simply not the same thing.

October 16, 2008 at 13:45 | Registered CommenterWinston

Doesn't anyone want to step out boldly and actually give an opinion on the question I asked? Since we're now seeing the possibility of a dozen different standards being applied to this data where voter registrations are concerned, one would think this a significant question.

I think that matching either DMV or SSA data should be sufficient for registration. Requiring both to match puts the voter at the mercy of the bureaucrats who "maintain" the State/Federal databases AND increases the burden on election officials with additional investigations.

Unless, of course, you're all keeping silent just so you can criticize ANY decision made down the road...*laugh*

October 16, 2008 at 13:59 | Registered Commenterwesmorgan1

Try reading/viewing videos before typing, Winston. At least two people in that phony house have apparently already voted illegally. That would be VOTE FRAUD, even in your world.

October 16, 2008 at 14:00 | Registered CommenterRedbeard

You're right. I stand corrected. Prosecutions should follow.

October 16, 2008 at 15:06 | Registered CommenterWinston

Too bad that Ohio isn't a third world country...then Jimmy Carter would come in and oversee our elections here.

October 16, 2008 at 19:48 | Unregistered CommenterGrayRider

If memory serves, Gray, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) sent a delegation of 50 or so observers to the US for the 2004 election. They did so at the invitation of the US State Department.

October 17, 2008 at 09:55 | Registered Commenterwesmorgan1

Ah yes, our illustrious State boys, ever happy to pull stupid stunts like that in order to make some bizarre political points. The Foggy Bottom needs to be fumigated.

October 17, 2008 at 11:15 | Registered CommenterRedbeard

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